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Radix
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1st May, 2006 at 05:55:19 -
Seeing combat 'at least once' isn't the same as spending 'the majority of their career in immediate mortal peril'.
"Surely the guys that get their arses handed to them daily by US troops are greater heroes."
Why not? I didn't imply otherwise.
You don't see a problem with the idea that heroes can be heroes if they kill other heroes regularly?
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Peblo
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1st May, 2006 at 06:45:04 -
The moon landing was real...
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
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Grazzum - Scorpion E
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25/10/2003
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1st May, 2006 at 07:57:33 -
Saving lives not destroying them defines a hero for me.
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Matt Boothman
The Nissan Micra of forum members
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1st May, 2006 at 12:15:13 -
Well said Grazzum.
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Pete Nattress
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1st May, 2006 at 13:23:25 -
Radix: not really. "Hero" is deictic; one man's hero is another man's terrorist. If I say UK soldiers are heroes and some Iraqi says the insurgent rebels are heroes, then in no-one's eyes do we have heroes killing heroes, simply heroes killing aggressors.
It's an interesting question actually about how long soldiers spend in a warzone. And even if they're not "at war", for instance peacekeeping, I'd suggest that they'd be a target and therefore in peril. The heroism in my eyes is really that they are willing to be put in danger at any time rather than necessarily being at war the whole time. And the potential for that to happen exists and you certainly don't get it in other occupations, which was my initial point.
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Matt Boothman
The Nissan Micra of forum members
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1st May, 2006 at 13:33:11 -
They're only in the army cos they failed their GCSEs.
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Retired Kliker Lazarus
The Ed Wood JR of TDC
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18/07/2003
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1st May, 2006 at 14:46:42 -
Case in point: The Doolittle Raiders.
These 80 men struck back at Japan when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. They were to launch off a tiny barge (which didn't have enough room to get the planes off the ground). They beat the odds, and almost all the ships left the barge. They bombed Japan (they deserved it!). But they didn't have enough gas to get back, and so they bailed out, landing in the freezing ocean.
1. Several of them drowned in the waters
2. Some were kidnapped by the Japanese, put on an unfair trial, beaten, and left in a stinking cell. Most of them died. Four came back.
3. Some were captured by the Germans and put in some of the most infamous death camps.
4. Some escaped with some rebel Chinese people (not a joke).
And now there's only 11 out of 80 alive.
They crippled Japan, risking their lives for your ungreatful asses.
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Retired Kliker Lazarus
The Ed Wood JR of TDC
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1st May, 2006 at 14:52:22 -
And what would be your definition of hero, exactly?
Most likely it's some who saves the planet or something gay like that.
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Pete Nattress
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23/09/2002
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1st May, 2006 at 15:00:08 -
Allow me to quote Michael Moore for you Noodle. Maybe it's more applicable to the USA but I'd still say it's resonant of the truth:
"I've always been amazed that the very people forced to live in the worst parts of town, go to the worst schools, and who have it the hardest are always the first to step up, to defend us. They serve so that we don't have to. They offer to give up their lives so that we can be free. It is remarkably their gift to us."
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Matt Boothman
The Nissan Micra of forum members
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20/09/2002
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1st May, 2006 at 15:30:36 -
Yeah, my Mum was in the RAF, but she never went anywhere but England.
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Retired Kliker Lazarus
The Ed Wood JR of TDC
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1st May, 2006 at 16:38:28 -
Noodle. You are a fucktard.
I never said I was my 'only friend'.
The idea that Global Warming is caused by us is a farce, not Global Warming itself. I should've made my meaning plainer.
You fucking twit.
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Retired Kliker Lazarus
The Ed Wood JR of TDC
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1st May, 2006 at 16:42:25 -
You're doing what the media does: taking direct quotes and then altering them so that they support your opinion.
A two-bit mind? That was uncalled for.
Fine Garbage since 2003.
CURRENT PROJECT:
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-Working in television.
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Matt Boothman
The Nissan Micra of forum members
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1st May, 2006 at 19:16:13 -
You're old sig, please read it and then apologize, you alabaster retard.
You can't argue with me anyway, my rating clearly states I'm "The Best Person EVAR!!11".
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1st May, 2006 at 19:52:03 -
No hes not Lazarus is cool!!
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Retired Kliker Lazarus
The Ed Wood JR of TDC
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1st May, 2006 at 19:58:48 -
Yeah, you may be the Best Person Evar, but I wouldn't ask for a custom rating because the admins would have fun with it, and therefor I'm cooler.
Aw, screw it. Let's just agree to disagree.
Fine Garbage since 2003.
CURRENT PROJECT:
-Paying off a massive amount of debt in college loans.
-Working in television.
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