As we all know, Easter is tomorrow. But did you know about the Council of Nicaea?
Well I'm about to tell you. I'm going to take you back to around 330 A.D. to Rome, where the pagan emperor Constantine the Great collated the Bible as we know it today.
In Constantine’s day, the official religion was sun worship, the cult of Sol Invictus, and Constantine was it's head priest.
But Constantine could see that Christianity was on the rise, and used it for his own gain.
The pre-Christian God Mithras, called the Son of God and the Light of the World, was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days.
December 25 is also the birthday of Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh.
Christianity honored the Jewish Sabbath of Saturday, but Constantine shifted it to coincide with the pagan’s veneration day of the sun.
To this day, most churchgoers attend services on Sunday morning with no idea that they are there on account of the pagan sun God’s weekly tribute - Sunday.
Which brings us back to the Council of Nicaea, During this fusion of religions, Constantine needed to strengthen the new Christian tradition, and held a famous ecumenical gathering known as the Council of Nicaea.
At this gathering, many aspects of Christianity were debated and voted upon - the date of Easter, the role of bishops, the administration of sacraments, and of course, the divinity of Jesus.
Three centuries after the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, Christ followers had multiplied exponentially. Christians and Pagans started warring, and the conflict grew so much that it threatened to slit Rome in two. Constantine took advantage of Christ's substantial influence and importance.
Now because Constantine upgraded Jesus almost four centuries after Jesus' death, thousands of documents already existed about Jesus as a mortal man.
So, Constantine commissioned and financed a new Bible, which omitted the gospels that spoke of Christ's human traits, and embellished the gospels that made him godlike.
Have a Happy Easter!
Steve Zissou: Anne-Marie, do all the interns get Glocks?
Anne-Marie: No, they have to share one.
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10th April, 2004 at 15:25:40 -
easter is a time for eggs and eggs only.
give me my eggs.
seriously, you may think this is "controversial", but surprisingly few people are religious nowadays, espescially over here. despite being an atheist myself, you have no more proof of the truth of this than christians have proof of christ being the son of god, so it's all circumstantial rhetoric.
No the only book I've ever read that that nutters wrote would be The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. The bible is tame compared to that (In terms of randomness)
This isn't aimed at the thread, but at certain posts in the thread.
Don't mock religion. Allow religious people to follow their beliefs in peace. I'm catholic... have I ever done anything to hurt you?
"Say you're hanging from a huge cliff at the top of mt. everest and a guy comes along and says he'll save you, and proceeds to throw religious pamphlets at you while simultaniously giving a sermon." - Dustin G
If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it from your face. If your right hand causes you to sin, remove it and cast it from your body.
I read something like that in a Bible I stole from a hotel room... it freaked me out, so I threw it out the car window. True story.
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Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
im not religous but my girlfriend is and before i met her i used to think religion was all lame but ive seen that it really helps people. if they believe in it why mock them?
however, if someone showed me rock solid proof there is a god i would believe. until then ill be neither for or against it.
Dammit Pete, no matter what topic is posted, you act all nonchalant and pretend like the information is worthless.
Until recently I had never heard of The Council of Nicaea, or knew the truth about the bible, and finding it out, I posted it for two reasons:
1. Religious Flame war
and
2. Because most, if not all, have never heard of the Council, or knew what Constantine did.
Even if you are an athiest, history is still interesting, expecially something this big.
And YES, Christ was the son of something, but if you had read what I wrote, you would see that up until the Council of Nicaea, Christ was followed as a Mortal man. Thousands of documents existed about Jesus as a mortal man. At the Council of Nicaea, they voted on Jesus' divinity, and wrote a new Bible! Then destroyed as much of the old text as they could.
On a side note, heretic is derived from the Latin word haereticus which means choice. Those who chose the original history of Christ were deemed heretics.
Steve Zissou: Anne-Marie, do all the interns get Glocks?
Anne-Marie: No, they have to share one.
Pete Nattress Cheesy Bits img src/uploads/sccheesegif
Registered 23/09/2002
Points 4811
11th April, 2004 at 13:42:56 -
i always pretend that any information is worthless? really? hmmm.
i honestly don't see where you're coming from with this, or what you're trying to achieve by telling us. so what if christ has been invented by someone, or that texts that spoke of him as a mortal man were destroyed? as an atheist it is of no consequence to me, and a christian would just demand proof, which you don't have, or at least haven't presented to us.
Me, I'm agnostic. I don't really believe or disbelieve anything until it's been proven or disproven. Although religion is blind with people who don't see past the things they've been brought up to believe no matter how ludicrous they sound, but there isn't reason to dismiss the ideas on principle unless they have been officially disproven. So there. It can't be denied, however, that religion is the cause of most of the world's problems.
Proof? Go look up The Council of Nicaea. Perhaps no matter what anyone says, no one can prove anything. You might as well stop believing in New York.
You don't see where I'm coming from, or what I'm trying to achieve? I'm not really trying to achieve anything, I find history fascinating. I love useless facts, and I love to find the origin of things. Haven't you every wondered why people go to church on Sunday, or where they got the idea of having halos?
I found the topic to be interesting, and it certainly something that hardly anyone knows. I'm sure you have never heard about it, so what's wrong with a little more information in your brain?
Steve Zissou: Anne-Marie, do all the interns get Glocks?
You're comparing a city which I could fly across the ocean in a plane and go and see, to some history which is only documented in a book where babies are born to virgins, people part rivers, and a dude turns water into wine. It's not really the same now, is it?
I just use my common sense to guide my beliefs, and until the existence of God is proven by tangeble means, then I remain impartial.
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